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John Heatly Responds to Carol
(December 2010)


Carol's query: How did you become so interested in these topics?

I first fell in love America, both geography and people, when I spent several months back-packing around the States between leaving school and going to university at the end of the 60s (yes I am that old....) and Greyhounding in the early 70s. The vibrancy, optimism and can-do attitude of Americans at that time, despite all the societal dislocation of Vietnam protest/Kent State/Chicago Convention/Civil Rights battles etc, stood in sharp contrast to the dreary, class-ridden, mean-spirited and defeatist society of Britain in the 70s (is better now) and, as a young man, I wanted to see what made it "tick."


I believe that, to understand a society you have also to understand how it came to be the way it is - i.e. its history and the history of the societies that influenced it.  So I set out to study it.  Luckily, despite being "separated by a common language," that language is English (sorta) - and it is accessible through culture and history in a way Chinese, for instance, isn't (to me.)   So I got immersed and have stayed that way.  I'm actually less interested in politics than the forces that mold societies and cultures - my way in is to try to understand the historical roots and converse  with people living in the society (thank you Tim Berners-Lee).  Hence my interest in this debate......

It's also axiomatic that, to understand the world we live, in you have to understand the viewpoints of the major movers and shakers - and how they came to be what they are.  Understanding the 18th/19th Century world is not possible without understanding the British Empire and European philosophy and conflicts, understanding that of the 20th/21st is not possible without at least trying to understand America, postwar Europe and, now, China and the BRICS.  Thankfully information is now more accessible than it's ever been (no, I don't mean Wikileaks!)  So that's my excuse.

Re Carol's comments on "Military etc": I draw a sharp distinction between the military itself and the uses to which is too often put.  My school was founded in honour of Britain's most successful soldier, Wellington, and my nephew has served in Iraq and is currently on his 2nd tour of duty in Afghanistan - so I have nothing but admiration for those who serve in the military.  Indeed, in most Western Societies, the (non-conscript) professional military represents some the finer values of civic society - responsibility, duty, honour and selflessness.  The Roman Legionary continued to uphold the values of the Roman Republic  long after the Republic itself had been corrupted by the Punic wars, Sulla, Caesar and the rottenness of the Imperium.

Likewise the Wermacht were one of the few elements of German Society that tried to resist the Nazification of Germany (indeed it was largely Wermacht officers who tried to assassinate Hitler in 1944) although ultimately the horrors of the Eastern Front, SS purges and the Nazification of the officer corps resulted in the destruction of its values. 

My beef is more with the uses to which the military is put by its political masters (and their paymasters), the subverting of civic values which often results and the damaging effects on society as a whole of military adventurism - particularly abroad.  Vietnam was pretty disastrous for American Society in the 70s - runaway inflation and inter-generational conflict - and, even though the first Iraq war was, by most people's definition, a "just" war, one consequence was to attract the hatred of Bin Laden et al (infidel troops on sacred Muslim soil - worse female infidels.....) away from his primary focus - Saudi Arabia - to the USA (and the UK) - with all the consequences that have followed for a free society.

And they haven't been good.  In the US, to the proliferation of a mutually competing alphabet soup of intelligence agencies (16 at the last count?) and the inevitable loss of civil liberties (The Patriot Act compared to the Bill of Rights would have old John Adams spinning in his grave) must be added the greatly increased government "oversight" of all Americans (kinda where we came in.)  Each move may be necessary of itself but the law of unintended consequences is at work..... your professor is right.  In the UK it was Tony Blair - from a party that supposedly believes in civil liberties - (he's much more popular in the USA than he is here.....) who oversaw the most dramatic expansion in government surveillance and restrictions on civil liberties ever seen in peacetime.....

Britain had a very romantic view of its military and gloried in its achievements in the 19th Century - when, crucially, we only read about the exploits in the press as wars happened "over there" and didn't directly impinge on home society.  That changed markedly in the 20th century when the full horrors of industrialised warfare were visited on the citizens as well as the soldiery via conscription, the Somme, Atlantic convoys, Blitz, destruction of Coventry etc.
 

Continental Europeans have had a much more direct experience of war being fought on their home soil - which might explain why they are so antagonistic to it.  One can't really understand the psyche of the "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" unless one is aware of what the French citizenry suffered at Passchendale, Ypres, the Somme and between 1940-45.

The US has been fortunate that, since the Civil War, warfare has been mostly abroad; the two classic exceptions being Pearl Harbour and 9/11 and (not in any way to diminish them) both were single-item atrocities, not sustained military warfare conducted on USA soil.  It is when the effects of warfare are felt directly by citizens (e.g. in Vietnam by conscripts coming home in body bags on instant TV news) that romanticism tends to wither.  After all, no one understands the true horror of war better than a soldier - which is why most modern wars aren't started by soldiers but by politicians......


Re Carol's comments on Healthcare: This is probably one of the areas where USA and "old" Europe differ most in philosophy.  In Europe it is axiomatic that access to healthcare is a universal human right and should not be dependent on wealth - something  the state has a duty to ensure.  In the USA personal responsibility (and freedom) extends to healthcare and, as recent battles have shown, many Americans feel that, for the state to be involved, freedoms must be sacrificed.  In Europe it is felt that the profit motive should play no part in the health of citizens; in America it is axiomatic that the profit motive is essential to ensure efficiency, quality, innovation and delivery.

Given that demand for healthcare is, essentially, infinite (particularly with medical scientific advances) but affordable supply is limited (however much you spend,) at bottom the two philosophies represent different ways of controlling access to scarce resources.  In America by price/affordability: in Europe by queues/allocation......  The advantage of the American system is that price does act to restrict demand. If you pay you're less likely to misuse the system and, in theory at least, may be more willing to look after your health better (but, given the obesity epidemic I'm less sure practice meets theory.....)  In Europe "free at the point of delivery" means little incentive for citizens to practice healthy lifestyles - and the system runs the very real risk of getting clogged up with the trivial and irresponsible as well as bureaucracy.  And, of course, in America it results in lower taxation (but not necessarily lower costs of healthcare) - which is good for taxpayers.

The result is that, measured by inputs, America spends a higher proportion of its GDP on healthcare than any European country and, measured by outputs, USA healthcare can be the best in the world.  It is also the most expensive which leads to millions of citizens unable to access proper care unless they have either job or wealth.  Conversely, measured by inputs, Europeans spend less and, measured by outputs, European healthcare is probably not as high quality at the top end but is more uniform in delivery to all.  If you can afford it the service element of the USA system (waiting times etc) is far better - if you can afford it. However, if your insurance company decides to drop you, the results can be dire - as a friend of mine living in the States knows all too well.

All healthcare is ultimately paid by insurance.  In Europe that mostly means state insurance - i.e. higher taxes.  This has the advantage of divorcing need from ability to pay (not least pay for Insurance Company profits) but has the disadvantage of leading often to inefficiencies (The British NHS is the third largest single organisation in the world after the Chinese army and Indian Railways - how do you manage that efficiently...?)  It also, necessarily, means the State has to decide what treatments are covered and what are not - i.e. bureaucracy and what can be construed as arbitrariness.  In the States Insurance is private which (so long as you or your employer can pay the premiums) means treatment can, theoretically, be limitless.  But it can be just as arbitrary (if you are poor, unlucky or the insurance companies cancel you as not profitable....)

Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages - and both are equally susceptible to parody.  To the European eye the USA system leads to well-padded corporate profits and cosmetic surgery as conspicuous consumption alongside the poor and unfortunate suffering for lack of a basic human right.  To Americans the European system leads to more state/bureaucratic control (higher taxes/state control of medical care,) longer waiting times and more overcrowding.  To right wing Americans European Grannies die because an uncaring state decides they're not "useful" (not true actually) whereas to Europeans American Grannies die because they're not "profitable" (not true of course since, err, state-funded Medicare...)  Both positions are overstated, but both have enough of a grain of truth to be recognisable.

As with most things the optimum probably lies somewhere in the middle.  To my eye it's just as ridiculous that no one, however wealthy, has to pay anything for healthcare (UK) as it is that if you can't afford it you're denied it (USA).  In my world everyone would have equal access, everyone would pay (so they'd use the system responsibly and have a vested interest in driving costs down/promoting efficiency) and the poor/unlucky/those with congenital illness would receive rebates through the social security system.  And, yes, I'd have government run insurance to run alongside (not instead of) the private system simply to drive costs down by acting as competition to what is now a cartel.  Un-American I know but......  Both systems have to change at some point as society simply can't afford the costs for much longer (healthcare cost inflation in all Western countries consistently runs far ahead of general inflation and is exceeded only by defence inflation......)

At some point societies have to take preventative/holistic/lifestyle healthcare more seriously than they do now - but to do that the systems must change to encourage it - and that means taking on vested interests.  Currently in Europe the "encouragement" can only come from the State (i.e. more Nanny State, more "control" etc. - the system has its own built in vested interests) and there is there a natural resistance from ordinary people to be "told" what's "best for them" by bureaucrats. Conversely in the States there are enormous private vested interests in play who do jolly well out the current system of expensive curative care - so why would they want to reduce demand? 
If you're covered by your employer's insurance why should you care anyway? Or if the state will pay and it's free for you why should you care anyway?  

Sorry for verbosity, blame it on my training which taught me that assertion without argument/evidence is prejudice.  (I'm currently re-reading Mark Twain's essays - someone equally argumentative......)

John Continues in January 2011

On Carol's "comments on comments," John adds a few "thoughts from abroad" on the her very valid points:

"Democracy/Constitutional Republic etc."  One of the reasons I have long been fascinated with the American "experiment" is that it is one of the few times in history (only time?) that men (was, of course, only men) have successfully planned a governmental system based on a set of principles unencumbered by too much "baggage" of existing infrastructures. 

And they did a damn fine job - the written constitution, separation of powers, Bill of Rights etc. are shining examples of how things could be arranged in a rational society rather than one trammelled by the burden of existing privilege, power and superstition.  Much of the thinking mirrored and was drawn from the Enlightenment philosophers of Europe - but in Europe the "men of reason" (Tom Paine etc.) failed because they couldn't achieve their purpose without overthrowing existing structures; those structures were in place and weren't going to go without a fight to the death.  So the "rational enlightenment," in e.g.18th century France and later in Russia, failed as it dissolved into bloody mutual murder (first Kings and Aristos, then anyone who disagreed or might disagree etc.), the inevitable outcome being the emergence of "Big Men" (Napoleon, Lenin/Stalin.)

In America the existing power structures were "over there" - weeks or even months away and, once their forces had been defeated, the way was clear for a rational construction.  The outcome was not inevitable, still needed greatness to achieve it, but more possible - the existing power structure wasn't going to fight to the death for remote colonies as the real base of its power was in the UK. So it was necessary to defeat the Power's army but it wasn't necessary (or possible) to embark on a pogrom of the privileged with the all the potential for descent into anarchy that involved.

Absolutely agree that the intention was not democracy as we understand it - these men were, at the end of the day, 18th Century Whigs and it was axiomatic to them that Freedom and the rule of Law was the right only of men of property.  Excluded were, especially, women, Native Americans and slaves.  In this sense their world view was absolutely consonant with their 18th Century European Whig counterparts where both women and slaves were, legally, "Property."  Not until the late 19th/early 20th Century did "democracy" in the sense of universal rights of citizenship with equal voting rights become the received wisdom in either America (14/15/19th Amendments) or (some parts of) Europe.

The Separation of Powers (SoP) was a brilliant construct designed to counter the absolutism of the Royal Executive.  The Rule of Law was far from new - many of the Revolutionaries claimed their aim was to recover the rule of Law (grounded in Anglo-Saxon principles of Common Law and Roman principles of a written Legal Code) which had been subverted, as it had, by arbitrary Royal and Colonial vested interests. 

The inbuilt potential for paralysis (if the Powers could or would not co-operate) was regarded as less important than to place constraints on an over-mighty executive (the purpose of the whole enterprise.) It could only work, as you say, with an informed and vigilant citizenry.  But what if the citizenry is neither vigilant (pre-occupied with other things such as material wealth - Roman Bread and Circuses come to mind) nor informed (or their sources of information are, themselves, captured by vested interests?)  Or simply feels dis-enfranchised and powerless?  Viewed from abroad US politics seems to be becoming increasingly shrill and tribal in nature with neither side's activists prepared to co-operate with the other in anything and eager to ascribe the basest of motives to "them".  At this point the system's "checks and balances" become paralysis - it will be interesting to see how the new Congress plays out - controlling the executive is not quite the same thing as ensuring nothing can be done at all.

Re Carol's comments on the military: My point on the "military" has clearly touched a nerve, for which I apologise - up to a point.  Viewed from abroad the certainties about the purity of intentions or actual achievements of US military power are perhaps less rosy than the way things look to Americans.....  That's altogether a different debate and one I'm not going into here - the purpose of this is not, after all, to cause offence!

But what is undeniable is the point you make in your last para.  All Empires ultimately fall because of 2 interlinked things - Imperial overstretch leading to more and more resources being devoted to military necessities (together with the special interests that creates) and the "hollowing out" of society at home that results.  As you say Rome fell because it could no longer afford to defend its empire - and the increasingly desperate attempts to do so led to crushing taxation, its own military-industrial complex controlled by Emperors and (very rich) Senators together with its own internal dynamic - the Emperor relied on the soldiery and to pay them he had to conquer (loot/tax) more territory - which then had to be defended.  And ultimately they ran out of Romans prepared to fight and had to co-opt increasingly unreliable "allies" (sound familiar?)

Something similar happened to the British Empire.  Unlike Rome the British version was, in its early days, created by private enterprise - whether plantations in Virginia or the West Indies, trading interests in India or mining moguls in Africa.  The State was not directly involved at first, just very happy to collect the levies and duties.  But when private enterprise felt threatened it cried for State military protection.  This (and the European wars it was fighting at the same time) had to be paid for through more taxation (initially of colonies, hence the American revolution.) Then the revenue the State got from taxation become a drug which funded more military might the better to open up new markets and the taxes they generated (e.g. Opium Wars, one of the blacker moments of my country's history) etc etc.  And, the military (in this case the Navy) was a source of immense national pride as well as being a massive consumer of resources and creator of special interests and corruption.

And other powers saw the opportunities for loot and wanted some too.  Hence the need for yet more military resources, more taxation (by now of home citizens) and ultimately war between the powers.  This ramped up the need for military and the taxes to pay for them yet further etc etc.  The whole enterprise collapsed in 20th century industrialised warfare and bankruptcy. (Interestingly, although the Nation went broke some very rich individuals and companies somehow managed to......)

One sees eerie echoes of this process in the drug wars round the world where the potential for incalculable riches leads to subversion of civil authority, collapse of society, gang warfare, bloodshed and vast enrichment of a very few. 


Likewise the Soviet Empire.  Reagan was absolutely correct that the rickety Russian economy couldn't afford an arms race with the USA at the same time as trying to fight wars of suppression on its borders (against Chechens, Afghans, Czechs etc.) and it collapsed in ruins - enriching a few people spectacularly and beggaring the rest.

The American empire is a bit different in form but I wonder whether we are seeing signs of similar forces at work.  American imperialism is less territorial (once the continental USA had been conquered/bought), more cultural and economic.  But, for whatever reason, the political classes feel the need to defend "American Interests" by sending in the troops to far-flung places.  Whatever the individual rights and wrongs of Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Afghanistan, Iraq etc one wonders whether the projection of power abroad by military means is ultimately going to be as self-defeating as it has for others necessitating, as it does, ever-increasing need for resources (and accompanying boondoggles), the enrichment and influence of special interests and, even when successful, the breeding of resentment, envy and hatreds - which in turn means yet more resources for both internal and external defence, more government "control" of its citizens and restrictions on their liberty (with the best of intentions of course) etc.

Another reason societies collapse is that they get hollowed out and the many feel increasingly powerless and exploited by the few.  This is definitely happening in the "Western" world.  Once the majority feel they have little stake in the existing system things can turn nasty.  In America (and in the UK although not, interestingly, in Germany or Scandinavia) real wages have risen much more slowly than GDP for the last 30 years (household income has increased mainly by households having more wage-earners) whereas the share of national wealth going to the top 5% has exploded.  One can view this as fine - simply market forces at work in a free society - or one can view it as potentially dangerous (No I'm not a socialist, just a pragmatist.......) 

Across the Western world there is genuine anger that the latest economic crisis, caused by a relatively few spectacularly well-rewarded folk and a complete failure (connivance?) of government regulatory oversight, seems to have resulted in the few being bailed out (with no signs of changing their ways) by the taxes of the many (who are then rewarded by losing their jobs/homes/pensions.)  In Europe this is taking the form of riots on the streets (UK, France, Greece, Ireland.)  In the USA it's so far taking a (healthier) political form as an outburst of anti-government populism.  But when political structures lose their perceived moral legitimacy trouble follows. 

Another pernicious effect of growing income inequalities is the decline of competence in public administration.  The best people will naturally gravitate to the best-rewarded careers.  Even if you have a public service ethos and may be prepared to take a bit less for working for the common good where's your breaking point? 100%, 500%, 1000% less?  So you have less able people with less drive, initiative etc. delivering public services which, in turn, means stifling, jobsworth, unimaginative, uncaring bureaucracy - the machine gets gummed up in ways the public can experience directly and get angry about.

In America (and many European countries such as Italy and Greece) there's another factor - the political nature of the Civil Service.  The American Civil Service in some ways resembles the 19th century British Civil Service before the Trevelyan reforms.  At the top level appointments are political - and change with political changes in the Executive.  Not only does this mitigate against a genuine public service ethos, it means those at the top are both less interested in and less able at the boring bits of doing the right thing well for society (rather than their tribe).  If the Civil Service is politicised it can't act as a check on the Executive, it's simply a mechanism for the Executive to execute its wishes.  And why strive for efficiencies if you're not going to be in the job long anyway and promotion depends more on political contacts than achievement?

Yes, but we have the SoP to check the Executive don't we?  Theoretically yes in legislative and budget terms - but much of modern government functions at the administrative level - and if that's politicised and under the control of "them" why should I (who didn't vote for "them") have any respect for it?  And then I see that, at the top, it's a revolving door where Wall Street insiders get to be in charge of finance, oil/coal men get to be in charge of environmental regulation, pharma/insurance men move seamlessly in and out of "regulatory" posts, etc. etc.  What they all have in common is that they're very rich, they've backed whoever has won Executive power with money and organisation and they know that, when the wheel turns, they'll go back from whence they came with a bulging contacts book.  Is this how best to control "special interests?"

My hope is that, 200+ years after the wise men wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the current crisis will force societies who believe in the principles they so stunningly encapsulated to re-examine a number of things in the world of the 21st century.  Much as we might like to believe Liberal Democracy and the Free Market are so obviously the best way to organise society (where are you now, Fukuyama?) our view is very much a minority.  It certainly isn't held by many of the emerging powers.  China? No.  Russia? No.  Islamic world? No.  Africa? No (the traditional "Big Man" philosophy rules), India/Indonesia? yes and no (superficially yes but politics means advancing your caste and family/friends' wealth.)  If we can't re-invent our political systems to be fit for purpose in today's world we might find our populations willing to listen to the siren call of the Big Man - "let me show you a better way - I can make the trains run on time....." Amongst other things I believe we all need to look at:
   
   •    Electoral systems.  How best to ensure that our democracies are genuinely representative of all the people (giving them a vested interest in it) rather than mechanisms by which one group has absolute power for a few years over all others.  Most existing systems were designed when communication was poor, information and education restricted and the world was a very different place.  As you say the American system wasn't designed for a democracy and, while the principles are as valid as they ever were, are the practices in need of some pretty substantial reform?  While Congress was designed to be a check on the Executive, what if both are controlled by the same Party Machine? (The modern party machine would be wholly alien and abhorrent to the rational, independently minded men who wrote the Constitution.)  In Europe likewise the hodge-podge of systems needs looking at in the context of a wired, globally interconnected world of universal suffrage.  'cos if we don't there are other models out there....... 


  
   •    How do we ensure Government, and its necessary right arm, bureaucracy, function in the interests of society rather than as the tool of special interests? War (and fear) is good for the military industrial complex (of all countries) which is why I'm so leery even of "just" foreign wars.  Freeing financial markets has turned out mainly to benefit some obscenely wealthy bankers (where were the regulators? - Oh, of course, on secondment from Wall Street/City of London.....) In many countries I believe this will involve root and branch reform of outmoded, 19th century bureaucratic structures.  I can hear the cries of pain from the bureaucrats now - they are, after all, another vested interest......  But perhaps a reformed bureaucracy, efficiently serving society rather than vested interests and recruited on the basis of ability rather than connections is worthy of being paid properly?  (Chuck Prince's salary and bonus package alone exceeded the combined salaries of the office charged with regulating his bank........)


  
    •    How do we ensure money doesn't capture politics - in terms not just of Executive but also Legislative and Judicial arms (e.g. British Libel laws, recent US Supreme Campaign Finance rulings.)  This might mean thinking the unthinkable in terms of campaign finance, use of technology to promote more democratic involvement in politics, public sector pay, pork barrels etc.


  
   •    What are the optimum units of government and for what?  It is arguable that in all counties centralised government has simply got too big.  But does government on a big scale have to do everything it does now?  i.e. many things could possibly be done better at a township level where citizens can be directly involved, others (in a USA context) at a state level - but some simply have to be done at a national level (defence, environmental protection, regulation of "big" business and finance etc.)  Others again should perhaps be done at a regional or global level (anathema this I know to many Americans who see "UN World Government" conspiracies everywhere......)  
But in a Globally interconnected, wired world can any government regulate international Bond markets?  Or cross-border water supplies (the next great world flashpoint?) Or international terrorism?  Or global pollution?  Or species extinction? Rather than a "one-size fits all" approach where power inevitably migrates upward to the Nation State perhaps a "horses for courses" approach based on a more involved citizenry ('cos they can see the benefits and 'cos technology facilitates greater interaction) allied to a greater open-mindedness about supra national institutions (if they work and are more accountable than now) just might.......


 
   •    The inevitable concomitant of this of course is what's government for? Aside from defence and upholding the rule of law should it have any role in promoting equality of opportunity? Is healthcare for all citizens an inalienable right?  Education?  Gender or racial equality?  Protecting the vulnerable from exploitation by the powerful?  Protecting the minority from the dictatorship of the majority? etc etc etc.  Each society must decide its own answer but I, personally, don't think the answer lies either in "regulating society in all its aspects" (some of the Social Welfare Nanny State Europeans) or "the market will always decide better than any politician" (some of the more extreme libertarian Americans.)


At the end of the day, unless we reform our political and administrative mechanisms to be in the interests of, and affordable to,  enough people to be worth sustaining I fear that the "Western" democratic model, as we understand it, is on a rocky road.  After all it's only been around for about 250 years - there are alternatives that have survived the test of time for much longer - and if people stop believing they have a stake in it there's always a "Big Man" round the corner only too happy, with his friends, to take it off our hands......


Which, of course, is why this is such a valuable debate to be having.
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